In the Freismuth decision (E.D. Wis) [PDF], , District Judge Stadmueller began his decision with a German Proverb and moved quickly to strong criticsim of the U.S. Attorney's office and SSA's handling of cases in his court.

Judge Stadtmueller discussed the flawed administrative process, in which the U.S. Attorney submitted the briefs of the Social Security Administration to the Court "without any serious independent legal analysis or thoughtful review."  The Judge found this to be a ". . . hardly an effective strategy to defend the indefensible."  To emphasize his point, Judge Stadtmueller undertook a review of the costs, both fiscal and human, exacerbated by the failures of the Social Security Administration and the U.S. Attorney's office.

In a scheduling hearing held in other cases on March 13, 2013, Judge Stadtmueller upped the force of his warnings to the U.S. Attorney and the Social Security Administration.  In particular, he explained to the Assistant U.S. Attorney:

 

. . .  I am hopeful that we can avoid having to put together a 30- or 40-page decision in every one of these  cases along with a concluding paragraph of sanctions.  And the  sanctions will be on a sliding scale, that is, it will probably  be 3 to $400 the first time, but then it will get all the way up to disbarment"

 

Full transcript below, click on the "Read More" bar.

 


 
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            1                  P R O C E E D I N G S (7:36 a.m.)
 
            2             THE CLERK:  The court calls Shirley Mae Nash vs.
 
            3   Carolyn W. Colvin, Case No. 13-CV-64, Nicholas Thompson vs.
 
            4   Carolyn W. Colvin, Case No. 13-CV-76, and Willie Mae Curvin vs.
 
            5   Carolyn W. Colvin, Case No. 13-CV-123, all for scheduling
 
            6   conferences.
 
            7             May I have the appearances, beginning with the
 
            8   plaintiffs?
 
            9             MR. TRAVER:  Plaintiffs Curvin, Thompson and Nash
 
           10   appear by attorney David Traver, Traver & Traver SC.  Eagle,
 
           11   Wisconsin.
 
           12             MR. PAWLAK:  The defendant appears by assistant United
 
           13   States attorney Brian Pawlak.  Good morning, Your Honor.
 
           14             THE COURT:  Thank you.  Good morning, Mr. Traver, and
 
           15   good morning to you, Mr. Pawlak.  I believe that we have one
 
           16   other appearance this morning from the Office of General
 
           17   Counsel, or not?
 
           18             THE CLERK:  We lost that call as well.
 
           19             THE COURT:  All right.  Well, obviously there are some
 
           20   technical difficulties that preclude their participation this
 
           21   morning, which is unfortunate because my thought today is to
 
           22   begin a dialog in a very direct way since the court's earlier
 
           23   efforts through our chief judge to try to bring some meaningful
 
           24   closure to the very wide chasm that exists between the manner in
 
           25   which these cases are being processed both at the administrative
 
 
 
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            1   level and, most regrettably, in terms of what has occurred not
 
            2   only in this branch but other branches of the court, left the
 
            3   court with no alternative other than to address these matters
 
            4   very thoroughly in the Freismuth decision about six weeks ago.
 
            5             And as a prelude to that decision, this branch of the
 
            6   court, and I believe Judge Griesbach in Green Bay as well,
 
            7   reached out to Judge Clevert about a year ago.  And I was not
 
            8   part of any meetings between Judge Clevert and the U.S. Attorney
 
            9   and his first assistant, but I am advised that there were
 
           10   several.  Nothing of any significance bore fruit as a result of
 
           11   those discussions.
 
           12             And at the end of July of last year I submitted a
 
           13   memorandum to Judge Clevert, along with the makings of many of
 
           14   the statistics that found their way into the appendix in the
 
           15   Freismuth decision.  And although the memorandum was addressed
 
           16   to Judge Clevert, my staff personally made a copy of it
 
           17   available to the U.S. Attorney and his first assistant, and yet
 
           18   another six months went by with no meaningful change in the
 
           19   manner in which these cases were being processed.
 
           20             And as a result of where we are today, I'm curious,
 
           21   beginning with you, Mr. Pawlak, where you see these cases going.
 
           22             MR. PAWLAK:  Well, Your Honor, basically all I can do
 
           23   is address the three cases which are before the Court this
 
           24   morning.  And we've attempted to -- Mr. Traver and I have met
 
           25   and discussed these cases and attempted to I think alleviate
 
 
 
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            1   perhaps some of the concerns the Court has.  Obviously we have
 
            2   very little power to control what goes on in the administrative
 
            3   process, so I really can't speak to that.
 
            4             Here, Your Honor, in these particular cases, we've
 
            5   come up with a general plan which we think could alleviate some
 
            6   of those concerns in terms of meeting and conferring.  And I'll
 
            7   try to do the same in all the other cases that I have authority
 
            8   or any type of role in.  But I am not in a position, Your Honor,
 
            9   to talk to this Court about the failings of the administrative
 
           10   process, or the difficulties that plague Social Security at
 
           11   large in their vast bureaucracy.  That's just not within my
 
           12   bailiwick.
 
           13             THE COURT:  Well, to the extent that you have some
 
           14   thoughts about these specific cases I'll be happy to hear you.
 
           15   But if you did not glean from the Court's January 31st decision
 
           16   in the Freismuth case, the dysfunctionality that we're talking
 
           17   about, Mr. Pawlak — and this is by no means meant to disparage
 
           18   you or criticize you on a personal level — that dysfunctionality
 
           19   has carried right up to and including filings in this court and
 
           20   the other branches of the court.  And that's where the rubber
 
           21   hits the road.
 
           22             Because, to follow up on the Court's last comment in
 
           23   the decision, if we're going to see briefs like we saw in the
 
           24   Freismuth case, which you personally sign off on as an officer
 
           25   of the court, you're going to find yourself in deep, deep, deep
 
 
 
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            1   trouble, not only with the Court and your ability to practice
 
            2   law, but there are going to be financial sanctions that are
 
            3   going to follow.  And if you and your colleagues in the U.S.
 
            4   Attorney's Office and at the Office of the Regional Counsel
 
            5   haven't picked up on that, you better do so forthwith, because
 
            6   the days of waltzing around in a baby carriage are long, long
 
            7   gone.  We've tried that and it didn't work.
 
            8             I appreciate you have no control over what the appeals
 
            9   counsel does or what the Commissioner does and how the
 
           10   administrative law judges are being trained and how they are
 
           11   handling these cases, but when they come into court it's an
 
           12   entirely different situation.  And that's what we're here to
 
           13   talk about today.
 
           14             And I am heartened to hear you say "perhaps there
 
           15   ought to be a meet-and-confer," and I appreciate that thought.
 
           16   But on the other hand, if we go back to the administrative
 
           17   process, to be sure it's not an adversarial process.  There
 
           18   isn't counsel representing these claimants.  And it's only when
 
           19   the David Travers of the world become involved that they begin
 
           20   to focus on what the real issues are in these cases and where
 
           21   the administrative process has so become deeply, deeply flawed.
 
           22             And so with the benefit of the administrative record
 
           23   and a meet-and-confer, I am hopeful that we can avoid having to
 
           24   put together a 30- or 40-page decision in every one of these
 
           25   cases along with a concluding paragraph of sanctions.  And the
 
 
 
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            1   sanctions will be on a sliding scale, that is, it will probably
 
            2   be 3 to $400 the first time, but then it will get all the way up
 
            3   to disbarment.
 
            4             And so somebody needs to really put the shoulder to
 
            5   the wheel to get to the bottom of why it is these memoranda come
 
            6   in at 4:30 and are filed at 5:00 o'clock with a signature of an
 
            7   assistant U.S. attorney who may never have had the opportunity
 
            8   to really drill down and address both the factual and legal
 
            9   analysis that have been put together by third parties.  But
 
           10   you're signing off on these and you're the first person that's
 
           11   going to be held accountable.  And to that extent, it better be
 
           12   in your interest to develop a little better protocol in terms of
 
           13   the timeliness of these materials being submitted to you for
 
           14   your review so that when they are filed with the court you can
 
           15   rest assured that they have been meaningfully reviewed and
 
           16   appropriately addressed.  That's what this is all about.
 
           17             MR. PAWLAK:  Specifically, Your Honor, in regard to
 
           18   that concern, we are trying to adapt our protocols in that
 
           19   regard.  We are trying to attempt to have the OGC provide those
 
           20   briefs to us with more of a lead time so that we can provide a
 
           21   more substantive review.
 
           22             We've also, specifically for these cases before the
 
           23   Court today, Mr. Traver and I have discussed a protocol to try
 
           24   and do in-depth review of those cases early which was I think
 
           25   something that has been missing for many of these cases.
 
 
 
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            1             THE COURT:  Well, that's honestly what Judge Clevert
 
            2   tried a year ago, and here we are a year later and we're still
 
            3   talking about trying.  It's going to be done or there -- as I
 
            4   say, there are going to be serious, serious consequences.
 
            5             And just like the responsibility that an Article III
 
            6   judge has in sentencing a defendant, it's something that I take
 
            7   no great pleasure in, and I take no great pleasure in having to
 
            8   sanction a lawyer or preclude him or her from appearing in
 
            9   court.
 
           10             So I guess the message is, again, while the Court is
 
           11   heartened to hear that somebody is trying to get really serious
 
           12   about this, I want you to know today that if it doesn't change
 
           13   in the immediate future there are going to be sanctions.  And I
 
           14   could not make the point more directly than telling you face to
 
           15   face.
 
           16             Mr. Traver, do you have anything more you'd like to
 
           17   add on the entirety of this subject?
 
           18             MR. TRAVER:  Yes, Your Honor.  I thought I would get
 
           19   to some of the specifics about what Attorney Pawlak and I had
 
           20   talked to you about scheduling.
 
           21             THE COURT:  Certainly.
 
           22             MR. TRAVER:  I have had the honor of practicing in
 
           23   some other districts and, for example, in the Western District
 
           24   of Wisconsin there's no scheduling orders issued.  It happens
 
           25   automatically based on the normal course of action of the case.
 
 
 
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            1             In a case like this the government because the Rules
 
            2   of Civil Procedure has 60 days to file an answer from the time
 
            3   of service.  So our theory would be that even without the Court
 
            4   issuing an order that the government would file an answer within
 
            5   60 days, file the transcript within 60 days, and that would
 
            6   trigger an automatic schedule.  The automatic schedule would be
 
            7   that the parties would have 15 days to meet and confer.  And we
 
            8   would send a letter to the Court saying simply that we've met
 
            9   and conferred.
 
           10             And then, 60 days after the filing of the transcript
 
           11   plaintiff's brief would be due.  That 60 days would give the
 
           12   Commissioner all the time that she would need to consult with
 
           13   the appeals counsel in Arlington, Virginia and do whatever she
 
           14   needed to do to get back to plaintiff to say in a timely fashion
 
           15   you have to write your brief or you don't have to write your
 
           16   brief because we're going to settle this case.  And then 60 days
 
           17   after plaintiff files her brief then the government would be
 
           18   required to file the government's brief.
 
           19             One of the problems we've noticed is that there's been
 
           20   a continuous flow of requests for extensions of time.  And one
 
           21   of the quid pro quos for this would be that giving that
 
           22   additional 60 days to the government to file their answer -- or
 
           23   file their responsive brief would be -- the rule that would go
 
           24   along with that is that only in extraordinary circumstances
 
           25   would they be given an extension of time.
 
 
 
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            1             THE COURT:  Well, in this branch of the court there is
 
            2   no such thing as an extraordinary circumstance in these cases.
 
            3   Regrettably, Freismuth is just one anecdotal example of that.
 
            4   This poor applicant applied for benefits, as I recall, all the
 
            5   way back in 2004-2005.  It went up, it got reversed, another
 
            6   hearing.  I mean, and that's the other real tragedy in these
 
            7   cases is, no matter what the Court does or no matter what
 
            8   Mr. Pawlak and the regional counsel do, it doesn't ensure that
 
            9   the applicant is going to get his or her benefits.
 
           10             This is just another bureaucratic hurdle that has to
 
           11   be overcome.  And it comes at great expense not only in terms of
 
           12   anxiety and frustration, but the economics of it.  I mean, in
 
           13   this district alone we've paid out over $1,300,000 in attorneys
 
           14   fees.  And I'm not suggesting that they're not deserved but,
 
           15   doggone it, at the end of the day when one case after another
 
           16   has failed through the entirety of the process, something is
 
           17   deadly, deadly wrong.
 
           18             MR. TRAVER:  Well, Your Honor, you're not going to get
 
           19   any argument against that point of view from me.  I have been in
 
           20   that situation and I have had cases that have come through
 
           21   district court three times with the same result and the same
 
           22   result.  One recently was Judge Clevert just at the end of the
 
           23   process just awarded benefits to put an end to it.
 
           24             Plaintiffs all over the country feel that.  And the
 
           25   most that I could do at this point is be a zealous advocate for
 
 
 
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            1   my clients one at a time.  And with regard to these three cases
 
            2   our goal is to provide a mechanism for the Court so that it
 
            3   minimizes the Court's involvement with scheduling and those
 
            4   details.
 
            5             And my understanding in talking with Attorney Pawlak
 
            6   is that he's certainly making a good faith effort to resolve
 
            7   these cases.  But both he and I are powerless over what happens
 
            8   in Arlington, Virginia where the thumbs up or thumbs down goes
 
            9   on our requests for consideration of the case.
 
           10             So that puts all of us in a bind.  And there's places
 
           11   where I have some capacity to make a change and some where I
 
           12   don't.  And I think we're -- the proposal to have an automatic
 
           13   briefing letter that's just generated in every case with the
 
           14   answer 60, 60, 30 -- or 60, 60, 15, you know, for the briefing
 
           15   schedule, with a 15-day meet-and-confer after the answer and the
 
           16   transcript are filed, I think would be a good solution from
 
           17   whatever I can offer from it.
 
           18             I've written a book about this stuff.  I've lectured
 
           19   about it to attorneys.  I've wrote letters to the Commissioner.
 
           20   I've done everything I can on a political side and from the
 
           21   standpoint of educating attorneys.  But like I said, both
 
           22   Attorney Pawlak and I are powerless over the Commissioner.  And
 
           23   I think that's where the real focus needs to be, but that's a
 
           24   political thing that I can't do.
 
           25             THE COURT:  Certainly.  Well, again, I appreciate
 
 
 
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            1   that.  But what Mr. Pawlak is powerful over is what is filed
 
            2   with the Court.  And that's what we're here about.  I'm not here
 
            3   to play legislator or the Attorney General of the United States
 
            4   who obviously has his head in the sand over this because nothing
 
            5   has occurred.  If I were in Eric Holder's office I would be over
 
            6   at the Secretary of Health and Human Services' office in less
 
            7   than a New York minute asking that they get serious about this,
 
            8   or I would go to Congress and asked to be relieved from any
 
            9   further representation of the agency because of its inability to
 
           10   conform its conduct to what is required as an administrative
 
           11   agency.
 
           12             But, of course, none of that has occurred.  And I'm
 
           13   not in the legislature and I'm not the Attorney General.  But I
 
           14   did spend 16 1/2 years of my career in the United States
 
           15   Attorney's Office, both as an assistant and as the United States
 
           16   Attorney, and we did not have these problems 25 years ago.  Yes,
 
           17   there were a lot fewer cases, a lot fewer applicants, but the
 
           18   agency has simply not kept up with the times.  And if they
 
           19   cannot make their case before Congress on getting the
 
           20   appropriate talent to serve as administrative law judges, and
 
           21   cannot get appropriate funding to handle the administrative
 
           22   processing of these claims, then obviously they have an awful
 
           23   lot to learn about effective strategy in achieving those goals.
 
           24   Because as I've repeatedly said this morning, they're going to
 
           25   come at very, very, very steep prices to the people who are
 
 
 
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            1   representing that agency in the courtroom.
 
            2             So to bring the matter to conclusion, I would welcome
 
            3   you and Mr. Pawlak putting together a scheduling order along the
 
            4   lines that you have outlined, and the Court will be happy to
 
            5   endorse it.  But we're not going to be sending out briefing
 
            6   letters anymore.  Those days in this branch of the court are
 
            7   gone.  What my colleagues do in other branches, I think they,
 
            8   like Mr. Pawlak, are looking at what Judge Stadtmueller does,
 
            9   and we're trying to bring some meaningful change that is
 
           10   effective in adjudicating these cases as appropriate and most
 
           11   assuredly in a timely manner.
 
           12             Mr. Pawlak, anything more you want to add?
 
           13             MR. PAWLAK:  Just one point.  I believe Mr. Traver
 
           14   misspoke when he said answer.  Obviously we're not -- in this
 
           15   court, in the Eastern District, we don't file answers pursuant
 
           16   to the standard operating rules.  That may change in the future,
 
           17   but at this point we will still not be filing answers.
 
           18             THE COURT:  Well, whatever it is going to take to get
 
           19   the cases in a posture that there is meaningful submissions that
 
           20   will allow the Court to adjudicate the case, that's what this is
 
           21   all about in the end.  But when we're furnished materials that
 
           22   are at best described as obfuscatory, the matter just results in
 
           23   unnecessary devotion of resources for my staff and myself to go
 
           24   on these archaeological digs to find things that may or may not
 
           25   be there.
 
 
 
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            1             And I also appreciate that in the Seventh Circuit it's
 
            2   a little different than the other circuits.  But it's abundantly
 
            3   clear that there are a number of these cases in which the
 
            4   administrative findings, ostensibly by an administrative law
 
            5   judge, are not even being written by the administrative law
 
            6   judge but rather a ghostwriter who may be some third party who
 
            7   wasn't at the hearing, doesn't have all of the facts, and
 
            8   certainly is not in a position to make credibility
 
            9   determinations.
 
           10             Second and equally important, there are far too many
 
           11   administrative law judges who are not conversant in Seventh
 
           12   Circuit law.  And they may be pulled in from other areas of the
 
           13   country.  And until there is some closure on that simple fact
 
           14   we're going to continue to be inundated with erroneous
 
           15   submissions — perhaps not by the U.S. Attorney, but certainly
 
           16   from the administrative law judges' work product.
 
           17             And layered on top of all of this, of course, is a set
 
           18   of regulations that for whatever reason the Social Security
 
           19   Administration as an entity has totally unmitigatedly put its
 
           20   head in the sand to try to come to some meaningful assessment of
 
           21   what ought to be there so that administrative law judges are not
 
           22   left in the lurch about what is the logical bridge, what the
 
           23   components are, et cetera, et cetera.  And you don't need to be
 
           24   a rocket scientist to figure all of this out.
 
           25             And why it is that these sorts of approaches continue
 
 
 
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            1   to find their way into the submissions from the regional counsel
 
            2   endorsed by the U.S. Attorney is simply unacceptable.  And
 
            3   that's Judge Stadtmueller's message.  And if the message is
 
            4   heeded to, we will turn an entirely new page, at least in this
 
            5   branch of the court, on how these cases are going to be
 
            6   processed.
 
            7             And so, in spite of my abundance of criticism this
 
            8   morning, I want everyone to understand that together we can
 
            9   accomplish a goal.  But if we're going to continue on the
 
           10   separate paths of obfuscation and the likes of that sort of
 
           11   approach, we're going to be in big trouble.
 
           12             The Court stands in recess for three minutes.
 
           13             THE BAILIFF:  All rise.
 
           14             (Proceedings concluded at 8:00 a.m.)
 
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            1   UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
 
            2   EASTERN DISTRICT OF WISCONSIN
 
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            4             I, JOHN T. SCHINDHELM, RMR, CRR, Official Court
 
            5   Reporter for the United States District Court, Eastern District
 
            6   of Wisconsin, do hereby certify that I reported the foregoing
 
            7   proceedings, and that the same is true and correct in accordance
 
            8   with my original machine shorthand notes taken at said time and
 
            9   place.
 
           10   Dated this 14th day of March, 2013
 
           11   Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
 
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