Will George Bush pardon all his minions on his last day

Phil Robinson · Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 725 Location: MA

what do you all think?

David Traver · Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 09:47 pm Post subject:

Of course he will pardon everyone in his administration. However, such pardons will have no effect in international law. So, President Bush, et al. will have to take care not to leave U.S. soil after Jan 20, 2009.

Consider what happened to Pinochet when he visited England. http://tinyurl.com/63wvoz

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As a "Christian" on his actual "last day" President Bush will face a much higher Court. He'll have some 'splaining to do to his Divinity of choice. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding

Additional links:

http://www.icrc.org/web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/htmlall/section_ihl_in_brief

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/03/11/warcrimes.court.reut/

You can be sure that if elected, Senator Obama will reinstate our participation in the International Criminal Court (ICC) treaty that President Bush worked so hard to evade. (Now we know why.)

deltajudge · Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Posts: 287

We can only hope he does not out do Bill Clinton, who so far is the champ. Cool

David Traver · Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject:

I think there are quiet a few champs out there. Getting a blow job in the oval office and lying about it is not an international war crime. Kidnapping people, sending them to secret prisons, and torturing them is.

Pointing a "you too" finger at President Clinton is all conservatives have left. It is insufficient. It is the dry death rattle and shaky pointing finger of the conservative movement.

God willing that awful ideology will stay dead for a very long time.

deltajudge · Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Posts: 287

Gasp, is that the best you can do David? Cool

David Traver · Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:33 pm Post subject:

Strangely, DeltaJudge's trolling helped me to sort out something that I had been wondering about.

Why no indictments after Scooter Libby? Why did the President not pardon Scooter.

A pardon is a bad idea where the President wishes to conceal crimes. The President knows that after January 20th he will no longer be able to claim executive privilege. That will be the right and duty of the new President. The only remaining tricks up the President's sleeve are to lie, destroy evidence, and use the 5th amendment.

The lies and destruction of evidence (Scooter's conviction and the destruction of millions of e-mails) are already in play. Whomever the President pardons will instantly lose any 5th amendment shield. After all, it is impossible to protect against prosecution by withholding self-incriminating testimony if there is no chance of prosecution due to a pardon.

So, I have to reverse my prior posting in part. I do not believe President Bush will pardon anybody who knows anything. He will only pardon those who have no direct knowledge of the inside dealings of the White House and the RNC. Thus, I expect to see some pardons of military types accused of war crimes, perhaps some low-level pardons associated with the Guantanamo/secret-prison war crimes. Perhaps President Bush will also give a blanket pardon to the Blackwater massacre suspects. Other than that, I expect no pardons of Washington insiders, which will leave them, like Scooter, free to use the 5th when called to testify.

While President Bush is generally oblivious to what is happening in the United States (such as $4.00 gas http://tinyurl.com/5bcgy5 ) he is keenly aware of the Fifth Amendment. See http://tinyurl.com/6mdufs

deltajudge · Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Posts: 287

You are ridiculous. Cool

Insider (Ret) · Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 07:28 pm Post subject:

And here we go again. Attack the speaker when you can't respond to the subject matter. Tiresome.

anonymouse · Guest

Seven years later and you conservatives are still jealous over a blow job. Get a life.