Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 04:42 pm Post subject: DLI Salad: Statutory Blindness and "regular" disab
I have an odd little case with the following facts:
Claimant has insured status for statutory blindess, but otherwise a DLI of 6/30/00.
He was on disability from 2/96 to 3/98.
He spent several years in prison after that.
Claimant does have visual impairments but does not meet the listing at 2.02. The claimant had an ALJ that wanted to help, but when he found an onset date of12/5/06, the AC kicked it back. In fact, the AC issued a tentative reversal. One portion of the AC decision gave me pause, which reads as follows:
"In your case, you were previously entitled to a closed period of disability from February 1996 through March 1998. this period is noted counted in determining your insured status. Therefore, the last date that you had 20 quarters of coverage in a 10-year period was June 30,2000"
This paragraph sounds like a closed period of disability is treated, for DLI purposes, simply as a period of non-work in which there are periods in which there is no credit. Is that correct?
This paragraph sounds like a closed period of disability is treated, for DLI purposes, simply as a period of non-work in which there are periods in which there is no credit. Is that correct?
I suspect the answer is "no, not correct." The reason I can't go beyond a suspicion is that I can't get a clear idea of what you're saying. Obviously enough, periods of "non-work" tend to be "periods in which there is no credit." (Self-employment can complicate matters.) What's different about non-work/nn-credit periods that are also part of prior closed periods of disability is that they drop out of the calculation. Like this:
Quote:
(f) How we determine the 40-quarter or other period. In determining the 40-quarter period or other period in paragraph (b), (c), or (d) of this section, we do not count any quarter all or part of which is in a prior period of disability established for you, unless the quarter is the first or last quarter of this period and the quarter is a QC. However, we will count all the quarters in the prior period of disability established for you if by doing so you would be entitled to benefits or the amount of the benefit would be larger.
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 05:44 pm Post subject: DLI Salad: Statutory Blindness and "regular" disab
Well, yes I had thought that a closed period of disability is simply not calculated in determining insured status, and that the period of incarceration enter into DLI calculation and we had about four years of that to erode coverage. Is there a way to check the DLI calcuation?
1. For insiders logged in for SSA's secure network, access a program called DISCO.
2. For outsiders, I expect it's mostly a matter of counting on your fingers. _________________ I've posted this in my private capacity. What I post might be wrong. Probably, it IS wrong. Any errors are my own. Please don't infer any SSA approval for what I post.
I mean no insult with this very, very basic answer. And now that I'm home, I can give a fuller response than from the office.
Idunno how many years back, SSA switched from plain brown file folders to the mulipart, multicolor "modular disability folder," or MDF. POMS (that narrow, focused version of the Junior Woodchuck Guidebook) has a description:
The electronic folder carries forward with a digital version of the MDF, both for the divisions and the color coding.
Although POMS speaks of sections 1 to 6, these are also commonly referred to as sections A to F. When ODAR pulls a folder into order and marks material as exhibits, the material at each division gets numbered Exhibit IA and up, through Exhibit 1F and up. (I am leaving out complications related to streamlined versions of this process.)
So when I referred to the D tab, I was talking about the colored divider that marks out the D section of the MDF. That's typically where you find the application, and all the earnings record stuff related to DLI. If the MDF includes a DISCO report, typically it'll be at the D tab.
So you ought to find whatever it is that relates to an Administrative Law Judge decision or an Appeals Council remand about insured status prong-filed at D.
It happened to me today that I had to explain what I meant by "morning dress." So it might well be that not everyone shares my cultural landmarks. On this possibility, here's a link that explains about Junior Woodchucks:
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